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Giuliani mocks Obama on Libya
Ex-mayor skipped N.H. in 2008 run
Former New York Mayor, Rudy Giuliani, jokes with Ronnie Schlender, of Manchester, while attending a GOP fundraiser at the Executive Court Banquet Facility in Manchester on Friday night, March 18, 2011. Ovide Lamontagne, Congressman Frank Guinta and GOP Chair Jack Kimball were a few of the guests who attended the dinner. Giuliani addressed guests toward the end of the night.Purchase photo reprints at PhotoExtra »
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Former New York Mayor, Rudy Giuliani, speaks with guests of a GOP fundraiser at the Executive Court Banquet Facility in Manchester on Friday night, March 18, 2011.Purchase photo reprints at PhotoExtra »
Former New York mayor Rudy Giuliani, whose drive-by approach to campaigning in New Hampshire drove his 2008 presidential campaign into the ground, began setting the stage for a do-over yesterday with a vitriolic speech in which he mocked President Obama as a stuttering weakling on foreign policy.
Speaking at a Manchester Republican Committee fundraiser, Giuliani said he hasn't decided yet whether he will again seek the GOP nomination. But he sounded a lot like a candidate, calling Obama's handling of the uprising in Libya in the last week the worst foreign policy-decision making - or lack thereof - he's ever seen.
When France proposed instituting a no-fly zone, "Our president, the leader of the free world, said, 'A what? That's hard! A no fly zone is r-r-r-really hard!' " Giuliani said to laughter.
"Can we stand two more years of this? We have to. Can we stand six more of this? We don't have to," Giuliani said. "It's up to you, and it's up to me. It's up to the Republican Party. . . . This president has been a failure in just about everything he's done."
In a more joking tone, he said later: "I'm going to say something I'll deny ever saying: Hillary Clinton would've been better."
As for his own bad decision-making, Giuliani acknowledged he should have spent more time in New Hampshire during his failed 2008 campaign instead of focusing on delegate-rich states later in the nominating season. He finished a distant fourth in New Hampshire and folded his campaign soon after.
"If I could go back and re-do what I did four years ago, there's about 45 things I would've done differently. But I would've spent more time here and run the way I governed in New York, holding town hall meetings," he said.
If Giuliani does run again and changes his campaign style, he'll find plenty of support in New Hampshire, said Wayne Semprini, who ran Giuliani's state campaign.
"I thought then and I still think Mayor Giuliani is a perfect candidate for New Hampshire because he is the one true fiscal conservative who has shown how he can turn a situation around using core, fiscally conservative principles," he said. "With everything that's going in the country right now, I don't think the priority on social issues is going to be as high as it was in the past."
Bill Gordon, chairman of the Goffstown-Weare Republican Town Committee, agreed with Semprini on the shifting priorities and said his group now tilts somewhat Libertarian.
"Smaller government, smaller government. That's all we hear. And I'm pretty much on that bandwagon," he said. "Social conservative? Nah. I couldn't care less. ... The litmus test for me is somebody who will try to be very businesslike, no nonsense, tell the truth as best as possible and not razzle-dazzle and misstating facts."
But Gordon said he didn't give Giuliani a lot of thought in 2008 and doesn't plan to this year.
"I liked what he did in New York, I liked how he took charge after 9/11," he said. "But really, 9/11 is really, really small compared to what we get into on a national level."
Allison Dorrington, 30, of Manchester, was looking forward to seeing Giuliani yesterday. She said she feels very strongly that Giuliani should run for president again.
"I believe that his strong Republican and conservative values are just what America needs to defend the Constitution and protect our homeland by standing up to terrorism," she said.
In a WMUR Granite State Poll last month, former Massachusetts governor Mitt Romney was the leader in the New Hampshire GOP primary, with Giuliani coming in a distant second.
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Obama had not acted, the same folks who are so critical would be squawking "He's not doing anything". I believe a "No Fly Zone", to be enforced by the UN, is far preferable to an all out war, with "boots on the ground"...which would have been the better option for Bush "The Shrub" Jr.
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Even though he is a Yankee fan.
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JohnKJones your quote – “We want leaders that can bring something to the table. "Jobs first priority, fixing the Deficit comes in a distant second."
Well it sure as heck not Obama!
-Obama’s new unfunded war in Libya + the two unfunded wars he now owns
-$1.6 Trillion Deficit
-$14 Trillion National Debt
-$223 Billion in Feb2011 of monthly Historic Obama Debt
-44 million Americans on Food Stamps
-7 million Americans unemployed and millions more UNDEREMPLOYED
-100 Trillion in unfunded Government entitlements
-38 States in bankruptcy
And the band played on:
Obama is Federalizing the Banking and Financial Investment System
Obama is Federalizing the HealthCare Industry
Obama is Federalizing Law Enforcement
Obama is Federalizing Civil Unions
Obama is Federalizing Public Education
Obama is Federalizing National Guard
Obama is Federalizing America
Obama is Federalizing Food production
Will you allow Obama to Federalize your existence?
Obama debt clock
http://www.usdebtclock.org/
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I'll say it again, Nonsense! Well, garbage, actually.
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It's a HUGE reach for you to say that Obama is "Federalizing" all these things. HUGE.
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Rudy stay home, restore order in your own house of cards before you come ours and try to build one. Any other questions refer to John and another voice's comments. The certainly sum up the way I feel.
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Where were you when George Bush was being constantly criticized for not finding WMD's? Hussein was gassing, torturing and executing his own people but that was not our business. Now because Obama finally acts, it's a good thing. Two things that most liberals seem to display is an unbelievale sense of hypocrisy and a short memory.
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As a so called Liberal, I do not support Obama on this.
And I still contend it was not our business to go into Iraq. And those chemical weapons Hussein used? Guess who gave them to him? Us. Why? To help him in his war with Iran.
I have neither a short memory nor am I a hypocrite.
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Obama now owns a Third Unfunded War, you own this one baby!
More than 110 Tomahawk missiles fired from American and British ships
http://www.cnn.com/2011/WORLD/africa/03/19/libya.civil.war/index.html?hp...
More than 110 Tomahawk missiles fired from American and British ships and submarines hit about 20 Libyan air and missile defense targets in western portions of the country, U.S. Vice Adm. William Gortney said at a Pentagon briefing.
“Let the supporters of yet another war in the Middle East come forth to make their case for a US attack against Libya. I will strongly oppose such a move, but it should be very clear that if a war against Libya is to be initiated it must be declared by the proper Constitutional authority: the US Congress.”
-Ron Paul
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... he should have been born a Saudi.
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That little thing called a Declaration of War?
I guess we are shredding whats left of Constitutional authority.
NHD & Duke
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in Effort to Cripple Qaddafi Air Defenses......
i'm sure the libs are all backing this act of war from obama.....
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Not me.
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Wow!
After constantly criticize him during the last week for sitting on the sideline and taking no action, the conservatives weigh in with a contradictory opinion again. Whoopie doo!
Take no action... criticize.
Take action... criticize.
Whatever action he takes (or doesn't)... criticize..
Wake up in the morning with nothing better to do... criticize.
Yeah, as a lib, I'm backing both the United Nation and NATO's effort to depose this tyrannical madman.
Operation Odyssey Dawn Kadafi be gone!
Please report back tomorrow, again, after Rush gives you your next talking points.
When was your last original thought?
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But when Saddam was feeding his citizens to a wood chipper, you did not want to get involved and called Bush a war criminal for 8 years.
Now that YOUR president supports acts of aggression, you have no issue. What about collateral damage, innocent civilians. If any are killed will Obama be a "war criminal"?
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see if you can comprehend it this again.....
i don't listen to limbaugh, never have, do not listen to beck, haven't since the healthcare debacle passed, and unlike you i watch different media outlets not just you're party loving ones......
IRAQ bad....... Afghan bad...... LIbya gooooooood..... Per liberal/progressives/socialists
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peep out of me about what obama was doing or not doing about libya, and we didn't hear anything from the CM either......
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but not the Constitution and Congressional Authority?
BillfromDover your quote – “Yeah, as a lib, I'm backing both the Unites Nation and NATO's effort to depose this tyrannical madman.”
Shame on you Bill. Maybe the tyrannical madman is Obama who ignores the Constitution.
I voted for Hope and Change, not more unfunded wars.
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How many nukes does it take to flatten 3 New York City Skyscrapers in a combined demolition time of less than 30 seconds?
How many first responders had to die to cover up your crimes Mr. Mayor? They knew the risks right?
What a coincidence it was that the Mayor of NYC and the Prime Minister of Israel were paling around on 9-11-01 and then again on 7-07-05 in London when a "drill" simulating bombs going off on subway trains suddenly went "live". He's definitely got a knack for being in the right place at the wrong time.
http://buildingwhat.org/
Want to know why the Mayor of 9-11 banned all photography of ground zero just hours after the attacks?
The video below contains footage of one of the nuclear bomb blast craters that were formed under the three collapsed towers that day.
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=a_UsC6GvKf0&feature=related
Here's a link to a video based on a USGS image that appears to have been scrubbed from the web. Must be why the Mayor of 9-11 is laughing so hard. It shows temperatures under the collapsed towers in the thousands of degrees 5 days after the attacks. There is only one way to get this kind of heat. Hint: It's not jet fuel.
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=KglmMbprfkw&feature=player_embedded
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I was going to make a comment about the article but the first six posts have done an excellent job there is no need to.
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Now every sentence out of his mouth is noun-verb-bomb Libya!
You gotta love a guy who can change with the times.
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See my post above. I believe that you are being way too much liberal here.
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Giuliani: ""Can we stand two more years of this? We have to.. . . . This president has been a failure in just about everything he's done."
Of course the progressives would argue that a 2200+ page health care legislation debacle is somehow an accomplishment.
It took four days for Obama to make a statement on Japan while he golfed. Then it was overshadowed by comments on basketball picks.
AP reported: "Former New York mayor Rudy Giuliani, whose drive-by approach to campaigning in New Hampshire drove his 2008 presidential campaign into the ground, began setting the stage for a do-over yesterday with a vitriolic speech in which he mocked President Obama as a stuttering weakling on foreign policy."
Albeit true, that statement begs the question whether or not AP is a news source reporting a story of if the writer of this piece is a shill for the Left. It sounds like an opinion piece to me!
For those progressives complaining about FOX, this is just one example of the skew of reporting from the mainly Left leaning press!
I am not a supporter of Giuliani but her would be a far smarter choice than Obama any day of the week, on any planet, at any time, even in an alternate dimension!
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I glad ya mentioned her. Have ya seen any of this stuff?
http://www.google.com/search?num=100&hl=en&biw=1024&bih=554&q=rudy+giuli...
Now give me your honest opinion; can ya see a cross dresser as your next Commander-in-Chief?
And remember, lying is a mortal sin. Straight to hell with no rest stops!
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Failure to address commentary but instead look for some typo and use that to minimize the other points of view.
Typically "progressive".
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I wasn't responding to a typo. Why would ya even think that?
Oh, I think get it now... "her would be a far smarter choice" vs "she would be a far smarter choice?"
I was just reading this sentence as another typical atrocious conservative attack on the English language.
'Besides, I wasn't lookin' for anything... just perusing the crap constantly vomited here by your side.
BTW, what was the "her" typo supposed to be? Take a close look at your keyboard.
And as for a cross-dressin' president, I was just thinking about what Glenn, Rush, Sean and SAVAGE (aka Wiener) would have to say... IOKIYAR?
Did this address your commentary?
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As usual you cherry pick points and skip the main thrust of the commentary. Your tactic is not at all humorous and it minimizes the impact of what validity of an argument you could make.
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with cross dressing????
you have no problems with gays marrying but a cross dressing president you do......
again, libs/progressives/socialists, hypocritical..........
pitiful
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We want "Leaders" not war mongers!
Ron Paul is right on about Constitutional authority.
“Let us be clear about one thing: for the US to take action to establish a “no fly” zone over all or part of Libya would constitute an act of war against Libya. For the US to establish any kind of military presence on the sovereign territory, waters, or over the airspace of Libya is to engage in a hostile action that requires Congressional authorization.”
“Let the supporters of yet another war in the Middle East come forth to make their case for a US attack against Libya. I will strongly oppose such a move, but it should be very clear that if a war against Libya is to be initiated it must be declared by the proper Constitutional authority: the US Congress.”
-Ron Paul
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I'll tell ya, that Ron Paul sure does get in the way of another good war. Sure would be an interesting litmus test for all pretenders to the presidential crown to respond to Ron's challenge here, including the current un-papered occupier of the soiled seat. Maybe we'll get lucky and they'll all go home if we ignore them. Remember, voting only encourages them.
– C. dog pulls lever for levity
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The post violates the Discussion Guidelines.
insult
Huh. In the old days, they called Federalizing another word – it escapes me at the moment – Socializing, that's the ticket! And that would make Obama a ___________? Some dots are better left to the Libs to connect just for the fun of it.
Antidote to creeping Federal Ivy: The Black Market – it's looking more beautiful with each passing day.
– C. dog dabbles in the black arts from time to time to get his freak on
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Why would anyone think this guy is relevant? Don't waste your time, Rudi. Nobody cares what you think. Perhaps you should make peace with your children before you die.
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Insensitive Abe your quote – “Perhaps you should make peace with your children before you die.”
:-(
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I agree with AV72. Sometimes you need to think before you hit 'save'.
NHD
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don't think those two items have ever happened on here.....
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"hasn't decided yet" - no, just by coincidence he was just riding around Manchester and happened to stop at a fundraiser
He slams Obama for not jumping into another war when he has to make no decisions that count. I do not always agree with Obama, but does Rudy think we should have already invaded Egypt, Yemen and every other country over there.
Rudy is quick to play Monday morning quarterback on other people and then say he would have done 45 things different from last time, when he came in a distant 4th.
Just another politician
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offensive
The Mayor mocks the President yet the President (didn't he win the Nobel Peace Prize?) is doing exactly what the Mayor wants.. getting ready to set a no fly zone up and kill lots of people.
The US has NO Business in Libya.
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Now there was a pair. Giuliani's family was still living in Gracie Mansion when Giuliani invited his mistress to move in with them. Ask Giuliani's children about his character.
Giuliani not only was Keric's BFF, he endorsed Keric to head up Homeland Security even though Keric was "mobbed up." Keric was sentenced to 4 years in Federal Prison. He was a crook posing as a good guy.
This article certainly left out a lot of facts about Giuliani's background. From articles I have read in the past, he was not a good mayor. His only claim to fame was walking around Manhattan with Bernie Keric after the terrorist attack on 9/11.
Pat Kraft
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ask someone from NYC if he was a good mayor....I think you will find the majority will say a good mayor..maybe you were thinking about Koch and said Giuliani instead..mistakes happen
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Not me, not me... Hey, not me.!
I was thinking of Bernie Kerik... you know the guy he wanted to be the head honcho of Homeland security. Alas, it's hard to secure anything from inside the big house, wouldn't ya say? http://www.google.com/search?num=100&hl=en&biw=1024&bih=554&q=bernie+ker...
And how much credibility would ya afford to another republican wife cheater that put his command center in the exact building that Al Qaeda promised to level? http://www.google.com/search?num=100&hl=en&biw=1024&bih=554&q=giuliani+w...
Lotta macho there, but not too much reasoning...yes?
When is this creep going to stop embarrassing both himself and our country?
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embarrassing both himself and our country?"
maybe the same time as you do with your comments........
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Rudy Giuliani, the ex-mayor of new york city and holder of the trademark "9/11" has a lot of gall to be slamming the president. President Obama is working to prevent another war front and still keep people from dying in Libya. What is Rudy doing? Nothing. This guy can't finish a sentence without using "9/11" in it. He needs to get a grip and go back into retirement. He blew it on the national stage and if cracks like this is all he is bringing to NH then he has nothing.
The people of NH want to hear ideas on jobs, not put-downs, talking points, or pure vitriolic rhetoric. The 2012 primaries should be a place to find people with answers not one-liners. Thus far, not one candidate has shown that they have a clue on how to repair our economy and bring jobs back to our citizens. Each one is trying to slam the other in some childish way for popularity.
If they just got their heads on straight and started talking about how to repair our economy then the voters would come in droves.
- No more Tax Breaks for the Rich.
- No more cuts to social services.
- No more conservative social issues.
- No more "red herring" attacks on the Unions.
We want leaders that can bring something to the table. "Jobs first priority, fixing the Deficit comes in a distant second."
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I agree you have the best post so far with your comments below.
... he has nothing.
The people of NH want to hear ideas on jobs, not put-downs, talking points, or pure vitriolic rhetoric. The 2012 primaries should be a place to find people with answers not one-liners. Thus far, not one candidate has shown that they have a clue on how to repair our economy and bring jobs back to our citizens. Each one is trying to slam the other in some childish way for popularity.
If they just got their heads on straight and started talking about how to repair our economy then the voters would come in droves.
- No more Tax Breaks for the Rich.
- No more cuts to social services.
- No more conservative social issues.
- No more "red herring" attacks on the Unions.
We want leaders that can bring something to the table. "Jobs first priority, fixing the Deficit comes in a distant second."
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