Ayotte calls Justice Kagan 'unqualified'
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Former New Hampshire attorney general Kelly Ayotte said Elena Kagan is unqualified to serve on the U.S. Supreme Court.
The U.S. Senate on Thursday confirmed Kagan as the court's 112th justice. Ayotte said she would have voted against confirmation.
The Republican Ayotte said she's troubled by Kagan's efforts as Harvard Law School dean to bar military recruiters from the school because of the prohibition against openly gay soldiers.
Kagan has said she was merely complying with Harvard's nondiscrimination policy.
Kagan is a lawyer and academic with a reputation for brilliance and a liberal bent. She was President Obama's nominee to succeed retired Justice John Paul Stevens.
Ayotte is vying to succeed retiring Sen. Judd Gregg.
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in any higher capacity than a town selectman/woman. Her assessment of Justice Kagan is way off base. Kagan was confirmed by the United States Senate with bipartisan support. Kagan is a brilliant woman and will make a wonderful justice.
This assertion by Ayotte that Kagan is unqualified shows how poor Ayotte's judgment is. Just one more reason to vote for a different Republican in the primary election. Every time Ayotte opens her mouth lately she demonstrates her unworthiness for the Senate.
Pat Kraft
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Even as a hypothetical, no town in New Hampshire deserves to be so poorly served as to have Quitter Kelly administering it (even if she'd be liable to quit halfway through again).
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......than Kagan does. Kagan is more of an academic. Kagan will also be very partisan in her rulings. Now, progressives complain about Alito and Roberts and Thomas but see no issue placing someone who will be equally if not more partisan on the other side.
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I guess I missed it before you took your post down yourself. Apparently, you decided to attack my family is a very personal manner.
Something about Kevin having to grow up with Bill and me as parents....................mentioning Kevin's alcoholism.
So, here is my response. You can disagree with me philosophically and politically. America is like that you know. But once you get personal; once you deem is necessary to name call and insult........well you have gone too far.
Let me also tell you, if you care to know, that Kevin is bi-polar. That's an ILLNESS. Life has not been easy for Kevin. But he has some incredible accomplishments as well. He has published a book. He ran the 100th Boston Marathon in 2:24. He's brilliant yet life is difficult for him in many many ways.
How DARE you get personal while hiding behind a screen name? I may have, in the past, thrown an insult or two your way, but NOTHING like what you've done here.
And I don't care that you know who we are. It took you a while though. Kevin, as the chimp, always posted his blog which clearly had his name.
I have no plans to respond to anything you ever say on here, but I invite you to write to my personal email and apologize. If you don't, you will certainly prove how truly cowardly you are. marthabeck@comcast.net
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I believe that you do not have the correct story:
I posted something AND BillfromDover posted what you wrote: "Something about Kevin having to grow up with Bill and me as parents....................mentioning Kevin's alcoholism."
I knew nothing about anyone's alcoholism. When Bill posted that information, I immediately knew that I was out of line to just link the three and wrote to the moderator admitting that I had made a mistake and that I did not want to purposely hurt anyone. That is my true belief and how I handle myself in daily life.
What I wrote was that I wanted my post (not Bills or any other part) pulled down as I would not want to 'intentionally' cause anyone any pain. I knew nothing about your circumstances, only about the same pervasive attitude about the BillfromDover being like as I wrote it, "Chimp". I also explained that in a later post to Bill and once again yesterday and he was just as abrupt as always saying that he "did not care".
Two things going on. I was wrong to make the parallel. BillfromDover posted the alcoholic part and now you used a first name. If I had known any of that
I did the right thing, I pulled the post to stop the pain of the situation. I admitted to the moderator that I was wrong and to please remove it as no one should have to reveal that kind of hurt. I did the right thing; bottom line about 2 weeks ago.
Yes, I know about the marathons, his successes....but......I NEVER knew about any of the challenges. I never would have brought that up as I did not know and I would not do that. I am sure that you are proud of him and he should be proud of his running accomplishments.
As a person who has lived with a disability for my whole life, I understand challenges, BELIEVE ME!
For all to see I will apologize to you here. If my post, which caused Bill to reveal that revealing information hurt you in any way, I truly, from the bottom of my heart apologize to you and your family.
I will not, however reveal my email to you. However, I respect your openness and honesty here. I hope that you can understand that the personal information did not come from my post but from the response.
Again, if that hurt you in any way, I apologize.
Finally, Martha....the rhetoric here on this forum is overheated at times. Your posts have never been over the top and often others have and so have the responses. I will watch my responses and I hope others will too.
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I appreciate your post and apology.
I don't know the circumstances of how the personal stuff all started, nor do I really care to know. I only know that I truly don't appreciate being called an idiot for my beliefs, nor do I appreciate being "lumped together" with all the members of my family in a derogatory way. Like any family, we have our own personal beliefs and differences, so I find it odd to be considered of one mind. Bill is way more "to the left" than I am, but at the same time, he is actually way more informed.
I think when we all take a look at family dynamics and at people as individuals, we All HAVE quirks, challenges and "skeletons" in our closets to deal with.
And some time back, you and I engaged in some dialogues that I believed to be civil and interesting. The you were gone for a while and I welcomed you back and said it was nice to see you. YOU, however, were a tad nasty in your response.........something like, "sure you're glad I'm back......righhhhhht." The truth was, I genuinely enjoyed our discussions.
Oh well, I don't come as often as I did before because of the insults and over-the top discussions ON BOTH SIDES.
Again, I appreciate your apology. I gave you my email only so if you didn't care to apologize in public, you could have that opportunity. The fact that you did so in public shows you have good character, even if you ARE a bit to the right of center politically. ;)
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.....maybe we can all join together to find a more meaningful dialogue. We are all Americans after all and there has to be middle ground where we can all meet and agree.
Don't think I was a tad nasty back then...that was tongue in cheek. If you knew me, you would understand....overall, I am pretty good natured and overall love humor. I was gone for a while as I grow tired of posting but with the Monitor slipping further and further to the Left....I have remained engaged lately!
What do you mean that I am a "bit to the right of center politically".......never heard that.....LOL
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efforts as Harvard Law School dean to bar military recruiters from the school
Ummm, Ms. Ayotte, the military was never at any time barred from recruiting at Harvard under Kagan's tenure.
For a brief time they were denied access to the law school's main recruitment office, (Office of Career Services, OCS) but still had access to all students through the Law School Veterans Association.
If ya can't get this simple fact straight, how am I supposed to believe anything else you have to say?
How many Idiot Americans do ya think are out here? Never mind.
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The post violates the Discussion Guidelines.
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Very classy. Keep hiding behind your name. Keep posting about my family. Classy.
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....glad they did. I am not going to respond in kind to posters anymore. I was just getting ready to ask them to remove it.
Thanks!
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Is that they never at any time barred from recruting, and yet were denied access to the recuting office. Sounds like they were to me.
But then again, they were allowed to contact the Veterans Association as a token gesture. Military recruters are allowed to speak to Veterans.
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Unbelievable.
Doc.
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......instead of manning up and taking the blame for his own failed economic policies. Good point Doc!
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Because Kelly Ayotte disagrees with her she's unqualified? Glad we have a nice clear definition of the word. No attempt at bi-partisan coming from Ayotte.
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until the CA. thing about the majority voting against Gay Marriage and being overran by a liberal Gay Judge hits the Supreme Court and it's almost positive that Kagan will back his decision up. Smoke and Mirrors by the Obama crew is coming forth once again. Why would anyone vote for a person that bashed our military actions? No surprise whatsoever.
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and being overran by a liberal Gay Judge hits the Supreme Court and it's almost positive that Kagan will back his decision up
Did ya mean being overrun by a liberal and will back up his decision?
Reread what ya just wrote up to the first period. It isn't even close to a sentence, or even forming a coherent thought! Then again, after 8 years of listening to your hero Bush attempting the same...
With such a slaughtering of the English language (not to mention the use of gratuitous capital letters), why do you feel that you are qualified to criticize anything collegiate, gay or presidential?
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What is "ya"?
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.......smarmy slang.
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Did he call YOU names?
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.......and causes people to post things in a like way. There are some name calling quotes here:
"What else won't ya do to save a buck at the expense of everyone else; especially your progeny?"
"Weather ya know it or not, you're nothing but a pawn, sailmaker - bought and paid for, lock, stock and barrel by the energy industry and Fox News, nothing more than an echo chamber from the right that lacks the ability to form an opinion on one's own without help from Rush, Sean, and Glen"
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"Ya know what they say about assuming, dontcha?"
"Leave it up to an uberconservative to degenerate the term fairness"
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"With such a slaughtering of the English language (not to mention the use of gratuitous capital letters), why do you feel that you are qualified to criticize anything collegiate, gay or presidential?"
"Repeat after me:
I'm not a birther...
I'm not a birther...
I'm not a birther..."
"Were you home schooled?"
"…….to voting for MILFs. At least, we now know what conservatives vote with."
"Why don't we just tax stupidity"?
"Hell, with the income from the the Wingnuts on this board alone, we could afford to drop all property taxes in Dover."
"Ah, ya mean like making money on the backs of the deaths of our young & brave. Some dream!"
Now, Martha, we all post over the top things and often posts like these get stronger posts with harsher language and greater zeal.
You know, we are all Americans and this forum illustrates the divide in approach to how we want our society to evolve. Everyone, including the poster whom I quote and who you are intimately aware of, lose our perspective and post over the top responses here.
I will not be responding to any posts coming from the three sources I am aware of on this site. At least not directly as I am through being called out for playing the same game which others do by others who just would love this forum to be one perspective, one view.
Again, I am sorry if I offended you or anyone in your family......I really have no interest in knowing more than I do now........that is quite enough........done communicating with all of you.
Thank you.
Millennia
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