What would you say about a teen relationship in which the guy is so obsessed and protective he sneaks into his loved one's bedroom to watch her sleep; seems to stalk her every move; tries to control whom she sees; and even disables her truck engine so she can't go out?
Or how about a girl who is equally obsessed with this guy even though he continually tells her he's dangerous, could inadvertently kill her and treats her as if she were a child? This same girl becomes so depressed when her boyfriends breaks up with her that she begins to take risks, some seemingly suicidal, because such behavior summons visions of him.
And then, that same girl gives up a chance to go to Dartmouth, instead marrying that boy, having sex that leaves her bruised all over, and deciding to have his baby even though she knows it may well kill her.
Reduce Stephenie Meyer's megahit Twilight book series to its bare-bones plot lines about the romance of Edward and Bella and many critics say it's difficult to understand exactly why it is so overwhelmingly popular and why millions of tweens and teens will be delivered - by their parents - this week to see the second in the series, New Moon, on film.
Devotees of the series (including twentysomethings and older) argue that reducing the sprawling novels to plot lines loses the all-important context of the story, which of course is that this is fantasy. Edward is, after all, a vampire; part of the series' attractiveness is to depart this land for an exotic one.
Gina Barreca, an author and English professor at the University of Connecticut, is a vehement critic: "The big thing that really makes Twilight a really bad book is that fear should never be an aphrodisiac. The idea that you fear your lover should not make him sexier, and that is a big part of these books.
"It's a damaging fantasy. . . . It's the idea that she feels as if she is in a dangerous relationship and she doesn't know how to get out of it, and that, finally, however much in danger you feel, love has to conquer. . . . No, when you feel yourself in danger, you have to go away, put yourself in another novel."
Dina Anselmi, a psychology professor at Trinity College, said books with the kinds of messages found in the Twilight series are "ubiquitous in our culture, so I'm not sure that this is any better or worse than anything else." But, she said, "It's kind of surprising that parents of young girls might not see this as something bad for them. . . . There is a lot of sexualization. . . . I'm not surprised that girls find this interesting and tantalizing in a way."
The themes are "definitely nonprogressive messages for young girls." Not everyone is so critical, most especially many of the girls and young women who are devotees.
Isabel Bart, a sophomore at Quinnipiac University, said, "I really liked the series. I got obsessed like everyone else." But, Bart said, "I think when I was first reading the book, it didn't jump out at me that the relationship wasn't a great role model, because it was so romantic."
It wasn't until the second book, when Bella virtually collapses after Edward breaks up with her - Meyer indicates this with entire chapters that consist of a blank page with the name of the month at the top - that she began to see the relationship as "probably not the healthiest thing in the world." "But people have to remember it's a fictional thing," Bart said. "It's obviously not real. . . . Everyone falls in love with the bad boys. Edward has both sides to him. The appeal is, he's safe because he does want to protect her and spend his life with her, but there is this underlying element of danger."
Bart said she could understand why "people think it's probably not the best thing to be giving young girls."
Still, there are moments in the books that trouble even those who enjoyed the series.
One was about a character named Sam who, when he was turning into a werewolf, loses control and hurts Emily, the young woman he desires. Later, he apologizes profusely. She forgives him because he didn't mean to hurt her. The two get together, but Emily is scarred by the event. (next page »)
I don't like the books nor the movie. I choose not to see them or let my kids read or see them. That is my choice. I don't expect the world to follow my lead. Free country. If you like it see it. If you don't...stay home. Plain and simple. The same thing happened when Harry Potter came out. I am pretty conservative...but I read the first 2 books. After that it kind of became drawn out. I decided not to continue. If you tell a child they can not read or see some thing you need to provide something of quality in it's place. It is a flash in the pan. This will have people talking until the next strange movie comes out....perhaps an alien who will have a baby with a dumpster and start a whole new race....the outer trash people????
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Are we going to go after all the Disney movies too? Because we would have to if you're going to analyze this "movie" like that. It's only a movie after all. If people don't get that, then there is alrady some underlying psycological issues that should be looked at. This is entertainment. It gives people something positive during this negative time in the world. Relax.
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I am notorious for overanalyzing children's stories and thinking about what they must be teaching the kids. Sometimes it really scares me. Beauty and the Beast essentially says "its okay if a guy imprisons you for love, because eventually he will become prince charming." Yet I never got that message when I was younger. I only ever thought of it that way as an adult.
I recently had an experience that gave me a lot of piece of mind on this topic. I rewatched the movie "Fern Gully," which is full to the brim with environmentalist propaganda. It was inescapable to me when i watched it now, but I specifically remember watching this movie in school when I was nine and completely missing it all. The teacher asked us how the movie applied to environmental issues immediately after and the entire class drew a blank.
My point is this: if you are young enough the moral messages can go right over your head. If you are the age to be reading books like Twilight you better have enough presence of mind to be second-guessing what you see because if not you might just end up falling hook, line, and sinker.
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read what "really people" had to say...she is the only one that makes any sense. you just spout off at the mouth and obviously your mind isnt open enough to let someone else have an opinion what you think and believe everyone is suppose too.
are you even from this country? are you one of the males that will use this to your advantage? give us humans a little more credit!!!!
and enough with the "thou art God.....we get it!
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that chica with the vampires and the sparkles and the angsty grief. Please stop butchering our beloved language.
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How can I not let anyone have their opinion? You seem to want only opinions you agree with posted because you cannot face opposing views. To answer your questions. Yes I am from this country, but I am not sure how it would matter if I was not. Secondly Certainly not!!!! Males like the one Cullen is portrayed as make me sick. Then there is males who will use this as a roll model to take advantage of women who are lusting for a Edward Cullen. My girlfriend hates the books as well refuses to let her daughter read them (once she is old enough). I give credit where credit is do and I am sorry we humans are bad credit risk. Again, these books are poorly written trash novels that where touted to be the next "Harry Potter" whose only purpose is get money to part with the gullible masses.
"Thou art God May you always drink deep May you never be thirsty." -- BTW learn what a .sig line is
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This article and comments section are laughable. Wifeandmom is correct. As a mother myself, I couldn't agree with her more.
When did Edward Cullen become non de plume? Hes a fictional character that doesn't exist. As far as pedophilia? Why because hes a hundred year old vampire? How old was Bela Lugosi's Dracula? How old was Nosferatu? Do you see how ridiculous this is? Children have more of a chance of learning about pedophilia from a family member who is REAL than a character in a story book. And having read the books many times because I wanted to make sure that I had read them thoroughly so my teen daughter and I could talk about them (she always catches me on details that I might have missed) I don't see how you could even infer that unless your mind is really that twisted to begin with, and considering that was your first comment druid, I'm guessing it is.
As for mental and physical abuses are concerned, you cme, may as well take away newspapers, tv, magazines, and any other form of media from your children and raise them on an island because they will learn about it just by watching that. Some even learn it by watching mom and dad.
Ultimately, this is the world that we live in. A world where violence is a part of it. You miss the point of the story if that is all you get from it. You miss the part where love remains, when its true. You miss the part where friends are there for each other even if they don't necessarily agree with what their friend is doing. You miss the part where family is the most important thing. Those things are in the books as well. Its a sad state of life when even the media is spoon feeding the masses with just the bad things about anything and then the people respond in kind with their blinded negative views.
If you haven't read the books, don't condemn them based on someone elses perception of them. Go buy them, read them. Then make assessments of the books, and not based on what you are reading from some critic.
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You write, "As for mental and physical abuses are concerned, you cme, may as well take away newspapers, tv, magazines, and any other form of media from your children and raise them on an island because they will learn about it just by watching that. Some even learn it by watching mom and dad."
So Tree, does the fact that children may be exposed to other forms of media excuse parents from having open discussions with their children about current events? My point, which you clearly missed, is that given this article in The Monitor, perhaps parents should consider reading the books and using them as tools to discuss these topics with their children.
I didn't miss the point; my point was merely that if parents see Twilight as a problem, again, use them as a means of opening the lines of communication with your children in order to discuss difficult topics like sexual and/or physical abuse. I have no problem with the books or the movies (I've read all four books and seen both movies). However, I can see how some parents might have concerns about the message the books (or movies) might be sending, or maybe I should say, the message that kids might take away from the books or movies.
This article was clearly trying to send a message that parents should be concerned about Twilight. Personally, I'm all for Twilight if it actually gets kids to pick up a book and read for a change, versus watching television or playing video games all day.
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Well, cme, if you had posted this comment instead of the other one, we wouldnt be sitting here writing back and forth to eachother.
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I wasn't talking the creepy stalker vamp boyfriend and co dependent love interest. The werewolf rebound bf and the aforementioned couple's off spring was what I was talking about. FYI I read the first book. I will not support the trash anymore that Myer is putting out.
"Thou art God May you always drink deep May you never be thirsty."
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DONT BLAME A BOOK OR ITS AUTHOR FOR THE CHOICES THAT YOUR CHILDREN MAKE. PAY ATTENTION TO WHAT THEY'RE DOING AND WITH WHOM!!! and if you feel their reading material is something they shouldnt be reading then its up to the parents to intervene.
These are good books and we have to remember THEIR FICTIONAL PEOPLE!!
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Please learn English. It's a nice language. "Their fictional people"? Whose fictional people are they?
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These are not even well written books. They use a canned style and a plot that has be rehashed in many earlier books. The only original thing in the books is the abuse and not good creepiness of the male character. This books has been good for only one thing, getting money out of peoples hands and into the pockets of publishing companies that will publish anything by authors willing to prostitute for them.
"Thou art God May you always drink deep May you never be thirsty."
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I'm not sure what to do now - I can't let my kids watch Beauty and the Beast - God forbid my child run into the forest and try to find a monster to live with......or Little Mermaid.....she gave up her identity and left her family after meeting a guy just a few times......or sleeping beauty....making it OK to be kissed by some stranger wondering around the woods....the list goes on people!!! It's called fantasy!!! Yup...make believe.....shocker-I know- for those who struggle with the concept......if you did read the books and thought about them- there are many conversations that can be drawn out with your children - things that I can almost bet would never be discussed without them........I mean...I'm sure parents had a lot of conversation about the King in Aladdin who was trying to sell his daughter to the highest bidder - no matter the age of the "suitor"....yeah.....I can imagine lots of conversation about that one! How about enjoying that your child is reading!!! The books aren't exactly picture books and your child read them! They are eye openers...discussion starters....and a great way to connect with your child without having the "talk", or, in most cases, not talking to them at all.........
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Stop abusing that poor defenseless ellipses.
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its important for mothers to also be reading the books and watching the movies so they can discuss the stories with their daughters and get into the topics of mental and physical abuse.
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But now hordes of young women will think and desire their love interests to emulate the "romance" in these books. There are Males who will prey on this. We won;t even get into the issues of pedopheilia that is portrayed in this series. This series just uses vampires, werewolves and fantasy to mask a very twisted and sick "lifestyle"
"Thou art God May you always drink deep May you never be thirsty."
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