Tales from daily commutes and Saturday afternoon spins filled the city council chambers last night as bicyclists gathered to talk about Concord's roads.
The goal was to gather information from the community, giving a city committee the framework to craft a master plan to make Concord more bike-friendly.
For a city meeting, the turnout was high. About 65 people crowded around tables devoted to conversations on different topics, including route maps, problem spots, bike parking and safety.
Members of the bike committee manned the tables, highlighting maps and making lists on poster-sized notepads, as small groups of bicyclists talked about everything from dangerous storm grates on Mountain Road to too-narrow shoulders on Clinton Street to traffic lights on North State Street that don't change unless a car pulls up.
But over the course of the evening, broader themes emerged, as well: Drivers could pay more attention. (So could some bicyclists.) During rush hour, certain roads and intersections are scary. Loudon Road is always scary.
"Number one, Loudon Road," said David Harris, casting his vote for which road most needs improvement. "Why do I even care about Loudon Road? Because that's where stuff is." He'll shop at Market Basket on Storrs Street, because it's easier to bike there than Fort Eddy, he said. But the department stores, "they're 3, 4 miles out of town, on the road of death."
Harris and others were seated around a table with a large city map. Greg Bakos, who's on the bike committee, was leading a conversation about where people go on bikes now - and where they'd go in the future, were the city to make improvements.
Several people mentioned the difficulty in getting from the west side of the river to the east. "You have to go under the highway on Loudon Road, and that bridge is tough," said one man.
At a table talking about "hot spots" for bicyclists, Bob Wyatt brought up the double storm grates on Mountain Road near the Mobil Station, "forcing you out into traffic," he said. "Some drivers just don't want to yield. They'll give you the horn."
Wyatt, who bikes down Mountain Road to Eastman Street and ends up at the state office park, later said his 7½-mile ride is "not so bad in the morning." But about 4:30 to 5 p.m., when the roads get busy, drivers are less patient, he said. "It's something every bicyclist can tell you they run into some place."
While negligence isn't widespread, "it's just that one driver that scares the heck out of you," Wyatt said.
That's something the committee is addressing. "One of the things we've noticed is not everybody knows the rules of the road," said Peter Rhodes, chairman of the bike committee.
Rhodes said the group is working on a public safety announcement about how drivers and bicyclists should behave. And Tim Farmer of S&W Sports has been hosting safety and basic repair classes for new bicyclists as well as local refugees.
City Councilor Dick Lemieux, who chairs the city's Transportation Policy Advisory Committee, said staff from the Central New Hampshire Regional Planning Commission would synthesize the feedback received last night into a draft plan that the public will be asked to review.
"You can see, there's an awful lot of stuff," he said, looking around the room.
Some issues, like problem intersections, could be addressed quickly, Lemieux said. Bike committee members hope to have the master plan done by summer, Lemieux said, and longer-term projects could then be worked into the city's capital improvements plan - if the city decides to pursue them.
In the meantime, plans for what will be the city's first official bike route have already taken shape. A proposal for the North-South route, which will run from South Street up to Fisherville Road, will go before the city council for approval in the coming months. (next page »)
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Try being a motorcyclist as cars "treat" you worse
By truthsetufree - 12/09/2009 - 8:42 amIf you think you're in danger riding a bike, try riding a motorcycle and see how cars treat you...there are a heck of alot more motorcycles on the roads and at least they keep up with the flow of traffic.
You bicyclists keep in mind that some people don't have the "luxury" of riding a bike to work as they simply live too far away, have to drop children off, etc. or don't like riding in inclement weather like some of you do which for the life of me I can't understand. You sound fanatical and out to get hit and it's hard to think you have much common sense.
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Follow the Rules ol the Road and Show Some Mutual Respect
By corrigannh - 12/09/2009 - 6:06 amI am a year-round bicycle commuter. I am neither crazy nor reckless.
I do draw a line, driving to work if there is snow or lots of ice on the pavement. I do need to take clothes to the office about once a week.
Improving bicycling infrastructure will make a tremendous difference. Those new bike lanes on Fisherville Road give me a relatively safe plafe to ride where I don't impede motorized traffic.
To those of you nervous about hitting a cyclist who takes a spill, that's a sign that you are following too closely. If the shoulder is buried in snow, I am going to take the lane. I will look behind and not cut off a fast-approaching motor vehicle. I'm stubborn, not suicidal. If you can't see my high-viz jacket or parka (augmented by three sets of red lights after dark) and lots of retroreflective highlights, you are not paying attention.
Thanks to the folks at S&W Sports here in Concord, I have a bike that is well set up for winter riding. It's not for everybody, but it's healthy for my wallet, body and planet. To paraphrase a friend, it beats sitting in traffic while driving to the gym to ride a stationary bike
I want to thank the people who organized last night's forum. I saw absolutely no attempt to push the audience toward a preconceived conclusion, although they certainly offered an agenda that attracted a pro-bicycle crowd. This is the kind of community effort that can make Concord a better place to live and work.
I agree that there are irresponsible cyclists out there. Anyone who drives, bikes or walks needs to learn and obey the rules of the road. They make travel more predictable and therefore safer.
John Corrigan
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Bikers
By littlecitygirl - 12/08/2009 - 4:00 pmI cringe every time I approach a biker, jogger or walker in the road wondering when he or she will catch a pebble and fall over in front of me - and I won't be able to dodge him or her and then will be cited because I wasn't in control of my vehicle! Give me a break.
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Share the road
By anoldrecycler - 12/08/2009 - 9:24 amThere are many more than the 65 bikers who attended last nights meeting that are interested in a safe way to ride to work or other activities.
I am not a spandex hard core rider but my family uses bicycles to get to and from work and other activities when it is decent weather, April to November. Why should we pay for gym memberships when we can add 10 minutes to our commute and get exercise at the same time??
My concern is safety, people are not looking for bicycles and as expressed by some, don't think they deserve a space on the road.
I and my son have had cars pull right out of business so that we have had to make abrupt and dangerous stops.
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Knowledge for All
By Shannon - 12/08/2009 - 8:13 amI actually commend those cyclists who continue to ride during the winter season. One less car is one less car.
The bike lane is a great idea. If you are a pedestrian wouldn't you prefer a sidewalk over the road? Or would you say that a sidewalk is not needed and just get over it?
The NH Law is single file, but like it was mentioned knowledge needs to be taught. If more bike shops taught education on cycling like S&W we would be better off.
Here is the NH bicycle Laws for anyone who would like to read them:
http://www.nh.gov/hsafety/hsbicyc.html
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????
By Dick Pender - 12/08/2009 - 9:32 amI wonder how you would feel if while you are driving and one of these looney tunes slips and falls in front of you, and then you run them over. I wonder how you would feel about them then, Unless you are one of the looney tunes.
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Don't Tailgate
By corrigannh - 12/08/2009 - 8:02 pmIf you see one of those "loony tunes" on the road give him or her enough space so you have time to react. Running anything over from behind is a pretty clear indication that the nut behind the wheel needs tightening. Tailgating violates the rules of the road.
John Corrigan
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7500? White's Park?
By Ebert Clackson - 12/08/2009 - 7:31 amThis 7500 should be put to better use to help out White's Park. The PARK serves 1000's of more people than just the 65 out of 40,000 Concord residents that these so called bike trails would, not to mention the re-location of the homeless that live down by the river..
This is just about the amount that would help out White's Park for 1000's of residents..
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Just an FYI
By Robert Frypp - 12/08/2009 - 8:24 amIt's White Park. Not White's or Whites, just White.
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WINTER
By Ebert Clackson - 12/08/2009 - 7:12 amAnd another thing these so called Year-Round bikers should hang them up during the winter season. There seems always to be few of these Die-Hards trying to prove something that they can ride in the snow. In just the last snow event we had, I came aross 3 of these so called die hards, Please give us a break. It is hard enough to drive a car in the snow, never mind a bike. You all that ride during snow season have to have your heads examined.. I would have to question your sanity as well..
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I find your comments odd
By BlueBird - 12/08/2009 - 9:31 amBicycles in the snow are pretty rare and every comment you post about bicycles seem to be very negative as if you wish everybody drove a car. Truth is, bicycles are not going away so maybe we should be asking what can be done to make their use safer. $7500 is very cheap for the safety it will provide. $7500 won't buy a single traffic light or repave a road, but it could saves lives by giving bicycles room to ride out of the way of cars. Maybe you don't like this because the money isn't spent in a way you think you will directly benefit, but it will help to keep the bicycles out of your way.
I'm curious, did you attend the meeting last night to share your views? Hearing the potential good and bad can only make the plan more informed.
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No Meeting
By Dick Pender - 12/08/2009 - 9:57 amI used to go to these type of meetings, and then found out very quickly, that if you are not part of the Elite and well Heeled, you are brushed aside as soon as possible. When they have these meetings the die has already been cast. It is all for show, to make believe they take your views under advisement.. They will do what they want to do period.
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Wow!
By Dick Pender - 12/08/2009 - 9:53 am7500 to be used for only about 65 people does not make any sence to me. We are cutting back on all sorts of things that the general public is using and turn around and spend 7500 that will only benefit a few? I don't think this is right. That money should be spent on far better things that will benefit the majority of of the 40,000 resindents and not only for a few of the elite of the city. I am a Motoycyclist, any chance we can build a small race track for us??
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I agree
By Dick Pender - 12/08/2009 - 8:37 amI agree with Ebert, enough of these Snow Riders. If they want to ride in the snow, get a snowmobile.
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Single file please
By truthsetufree - 12/08/2009 - 4:24 amPlease write into the bill that bicylists are required to ride single file. I can't tell you how many times I've been really perturbed by bikes 2, 3 & 4 abreast going slow and you pull up behind them and they're talking and refuse to move over and ride single file.
Just the other day, two bicylists were in the travel lane side-by-side, going slow, and gave me a dirty look when I nicely motioned them to move over. If you want to talk, stop for coffee. Until then for everyone's safety, please ride single file.
Coming up over a hill w/bikes 3 and 4 abreast makes it very dangerous when you have to slam on your breaks to keep from hitting them as they're not easily seen until the last minute.
The arrogance in the bike community needs to stop as they cause many of their own problems.
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You got a great point.
By TWE - 12/08/2009 - 9:51 amYou got a great point. Especialy on carter hill rd.
I don't know what they are thinking riding side by side.
They act like they own the road.
Now we must take care when passing a bike, but they have to help.
Single file.
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