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Letter: Disgusting!

Reading Thursday’s front-page story, “Ayotte helps kill guns bill,” made me disgusted not only with her spineless vote but especially with the spineless U.S. Congress. Are they not supposed to represent the will of the American people?

The Senate rejected a basic, common-sense background check law for gun sales despite the fact that 90 percent of Americans and 91 percent of New Hampshire adults support it. Even 74 percent of NRA members support it!

This vote was based on pure political pressure from special interest groups like the NRA. Congress has been a failure. We need to take our country back from the fat cat lobbyists who run our country.

Until we take the money out of politics, it will be business as usual. Disgusting!

RONALD LITALIEN

Canterbury

Also, The House and Senate were set up differently by the Founding Fathers. The senate is the place for careful debate, amendments, and represent the "States".

I am not sure I follow this diatribe, is the line "Are they not supposed to represent the will of the American people?" the source of this banter? Just exactly what bearing does the oath of office have here? The key part of the oath is the last few words - "...faithfully discharge the duties of the office on which I am about to enter:..." The duties are to represent the voters or used to be that. So what exactly is the disagreement here?

What was the very first law congress passed and why was it important? Is the oath just a formality now? A Senator has a duty above and beyond representing the voters. So important in fact, its in the first sentence of the oath.

Again, "... the duties of the office on which I am about to enter...". You are correct about the duties above and beyond representing the voters - today, that is representing the special interest groups. I don't care how you twist your "facts", skew your logic or just plain make stuff up. Sure they take an oath, I did to as a Boy Scout, but the foremost function of our elected representatives is "Members of the House of Representatives serve two-year terms representing the people of a district............" The same goes for the Senate. Yes they have additional duties, but they are not called representatives for nothing. So time to go back and redo some research. By the way the oath of offices as approved by Congress contains no mention of God - none, nada. Another pretend fact for our entertainment.

From the letter.."Are they not supposed to represent the will of the American people?" That is the point I am in disagreement with. As a senator, you are "sworn" to support and defend the constitution. Not, as the letter writer states, to represent the will of the American people. The oath is a reminder that the "duty" to uphold the constitution is not the sole responsibility of the courts but is shared by Congress and the President. You cannot as a Senator represent the will of the people if the will of the people is inconsistent with the Constitution.

GWTW, there has never been a more factually false comment ever posted here. "You cannot as a Senator represent the will of the people if the will of the people is inconsistent with the Constitution." Does the word amendment have any meaning, we have 27 amendments to our Constitution. Who is behind these, the tooth fairy. Nope both houses of Congress, the States and ultimately the voters. But it starts with the people WHO ARE ELECTED TO REPRESENT US. Using your logic it would not be possible to have any amendments, ever. That is clearly not the case. I don't see how much clearer one could be short of using smaller words. Time for a lesson on our form of government, some people clearly haven't the vaguest idea how it works.

Reply to Mauser below..You said "Using your logic it would not be possible to have any amendments, ever." The amendment process is clearly laid out ..wait for it....in the Constitution.

This is getting old gracchus. The Constitution is a written document. You can see it. You can read the words on it. It is what it is. Senators take an oath of office. That oath reads.. "I do solemnly swear that I will support and defend the Constitution of the United States against all enemies, foreign and domestic; that I will bear true faith and allegiance to the same; that I take this obligation freely, without any mental reservation or purpose of evasion; and that I will well and faithfully discharge the duties of the office on which I am about to enter: So help me God." Notice it does not say "support or defend a Supreme Court decision" No...it says the Constitution. The Constitution can only be changed or amended by 3/4 of the states agreeing to change it. Therefor, I submit the states ARE the final arbiter. Period. End of discussion.

You are correct GWTW. 2/3's of the House and Senate need to send an amendment to the states and 3/4 of the states need to vote to amend the Constitution. If progressives are so sure that the 91% poll result is accurate then they should have no fear of following the process as prescribed by the Constitution. To your point about the oath that our public officials take, it is a pretty much a joke. Many taking the oath ARE the "domestic" enemies and Obama in particular breaks that oath daily by picking and choosing the laws he enforces.

Dear G, are you claiming that amending the Constitution and interpreting it are the same thing? Do you believe that historical context is of no value? In 1896 (Plessy v Ferguson) the XIV Amendment did not apply to actions by the states. Since 1954 (Brown v Board of Ed) it does. There are dozens of cases in which the Constitution means (not says - get the difference?) different things at different times. End of discussion!

You cant claim end of discussion after I claimed it. Historical context.

what also goes unreported is the great amendments to the bill that the Responsible Republicans offered that the dimwit democrats voted down

You know...after reading the letters to the Monitor, and the comments..It's become increasingly clear that most people do not have a basic understanding of the Constitution, our Government or much else for that matter. It's quite sad.

Totally agree GWTW. You are not hearing any of them discuss what is in the proposed bill. Bu then again, they never discuss details. Instead they do the usual, name call. It is shocking that folks are so uninformed. Doesn't matter what the subject is, they react on emotion as opposed to logic, common sense, past history lessons, etc.

"...after reading the letters to the Monitor, and the comments..It's become increasingly clear that most people"... have a far clearer understanding of the Constitution than does GWTW.

I believe you said this in regards to the Constitution "...on questions relating to the Constitution, the states are the final arbiter, not the Supreme Court." You just have to wonder where folks come up with this stuff."................Apparently, you believe the Supreme Court is? Or do you agree it is the states? Do you even know the difference between a court decision and the Constitution? Please...spare me.

We had an experiment in which the states were the final arbiter of the Constitution. It culminated in the Civil War. Since then we have generally, if not universally, agreed that Supreme Court decisions dictate how the Constitution is to be interpreted at any given point in time. That, good sir or madam, is how it works whether you approve of it or not. Or have you forgotten Marbury v Madison (maybe you have - it was a very long time ago)?

The letter writer asks "Are they not supposed to represent the will of the American people?" Look at the oath of office................. "I do solemnly swear (or affirm) that I will support and defend the Constitution of the United States against all enemies, foreign and domestic; that I will bear true faith and allegiance to the same; that I take this obligation freely, without any mental reservation or purpose of evasion; and that I will well and faithfully discharge the duties of the office on which I am about to enter: So help me God."

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